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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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Can a DID pass CLI + PIN, For eg: User Dials the DID and a 5 digit PIN
00123456789#00001 or 0012345678900001
and it is accepted as the CLI ( calling number of the person+ #00001)
in Asterisk.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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I've been researching the same thing for the same reason you are,
but I don't think this is possible (currently?). What you could
do however:
If the user is calling the access number from a cellphone: just
have them program into the phone's contacts the access number,
a few waits, and the PIN number.
If you're trying to get A2B to accept wholesale SIP traffic, you
can either force the CID in their sip friends entry (but that will
prevent them from setting their own CID), or have them SendDTMF the
PIN number after the call is connected. Not reliable and not a good
way to do it - but that's how A2B is written right now.
A better way to do it would be to have A2B look up the card by the
sip friend account code instead of the callerid, but that'll require
some changes to the code.
-- Nitzan
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:17 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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Cyriaz@Gmail.com wrote:
Quote: | Can a DID pass CLI + PIN, For eg: User Dials the DID and a 5 digit PIN
00123456789#00001 or 0012345678900001
and it is accepted as the CLI ( calling number of the person+ #00001)
in Asterisk.
| Yes it is possible (sometimes) for example if you are connecting to
Deutsche Telekom via BRI, they provide a DID to you, for example
1234567. You can call 1234567XX and d-t will pass a whole string to you
as called number, you can process last digits then. Also, as far as i
remember, voxbone acts in the same way, but they use SIP instead of BRI.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 10:59 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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Is there any providers who offer DID with such options. I am looking
for a Low Cost DID to be able to pass the string (as explained below)
used for ANI callback in asterisk
On 5/10/08, Sergey Tamkovich <serg@voipsolutions.ru> wrote:
Quote: | Cyriaz@Gmail.com wrote:
Quote: | Can a DID pass CLI + PIN, For eg: User Dials the DID and a 5 digit PIN
00123456789#00001 or 0012345678900001
and it is accepted as the CLI ( calling number of the person+ #00001)
in Asterisk.
| Yes it is possible (sometimes) for example if you are connecting to
Deutsche Telekom via BRI, they provide a DID to you, for example
1234567. You can call 1234567XX and d-t will pass a whole string to you
as called number, you can process last digits then. Also, as far as i
remember, voxbone acts in the same way, but they use SIP instead of BRI.
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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Mr Nitzan,
Its good to know that its possibe, My requirement is to facilitate
customers to dial DID number followed by PIN, so that they will be
authenticated and get the callback. Please let me know how to
implement it. Thanks
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Nitzan Kon <nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've been researching the same thing for the same reason you are,
but I don't think this is possible (currently?). What you could
do however:
If the user is calling the access number from a cellphone: just
have them program into the phone's contacts the access number,
a few waits, and the PIN number.
If you're trying to get A2B to accept wholesale SIP traffic, you
can either force the CID in their sip friends entry (but that will
prevent them from setting their own CID), or have them SendDTMF the
PIN number after the call is connected. Not reliable and not a good
way to do it - but that's how A2B is written right now.
A better way to do it would be to have A2B look up the card by the
sip friend account code instead of the callerid, but that'll require
some changes to the code.
-- Nitzan
--- On Fri, 5/9/08, Cyriaz@Gmail.com <cyriaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: | Can a DID pass CLI + PIN, For eg: User Dials the DID and a 5
digit PIN
00123456789#00001 or 0012345678900001
and it is accepted as the CLI ( calling number of the
person+ #00001)
in Asterisk.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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I could be wrong, but I don't think this is possible without
answering the channel first (which will charge them for the call).
But hey.. if you figure it out let me know! we've managed to do
web callback, ANI/CID callback, and DID callback when dedicated to
one user. But "secure" PIN-based callback like you're suggesting
is something I'm not sure is possible.
Typically a PIN-based callback would call back *anyone* who dials
it, and then prompt them to enter their PIN. The good news is this
shouldn't be too hard to implement with your software, the bad news
is that you have to pay for all of these calls regardless if users
authenticate or not - if they don't authenticate then there's no
one to bill and you end up paying for the call yourself.
That's really the only reason we haven't done PIN-based callback
so far. There's nothing preventing someone from causing you a good
bit of financial damage by repeatedly calling the access number
with fake CID in say, Cuba.
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Quote: | From: Cyriaz@Gmail.com <cyriaz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI
To: nk3569@yahoo.com, "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 1:12 PM
Mr Nitzan,
Its good to know that its possibe, My requirement is to
facilitate
customers to dial DID number followed by PIN, so that they
will be
authenticated and get the callback. Please let me know how
to
implement it. Thanks
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Nitzan Kon
<nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've been researching the same thing for the same
| reason you are,
Quote: | but I don't think this is possible (currently?).
| What you could
Quote: | do however:
If the user is calling the access number from a
| cellphone: just
Quote: | have them program into the phone's contacts the
| access number,
Quote: | a few waits, and the PIN number.
If you're trying to get A2B to accept wholesale
| SIP traffic, you
Quote: | can either force the CID in their sip friends entry
| (but that will
Quote: | prevent them from setting their own CID), or have them
| SendDTMF the
Quote: | PIN number after the call is connected. Not reliable
| and not a good
Quote: | way to do it - but that's how A2B is written right
| now.
Quote: |
A better way to do it would be to have A2B look up the
| card by the
Quote: | sip friend account code instead of the callerid, but
| that'll require
<cyriaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: |
Quote: | Can a DID pass CLI + PIN, For eg: User Dials the
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| DID and a 5
Quote: | Quote: | digit PIN
00123456789#00001 or 0012345678900001
and it is accepted as the CLI ( calling number of
|
| the
Quote: | Quote: | person+ #00001)
in Asterisk.
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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I have noticed a local mobile operator providing recharge (top up)
coupons, User have to dial 130+7digit recharge coupon number and press
"callbutton" and they will hear IVR accouncing new balance.
Is there any similar service with any DID provider where user can dial
the DID+5digit number.
On 5/14/08, Nitzan Kon <nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | I could be wrong, but I don't think this is possible without
answering the channel first (which will charge them for the call).
But hey.. if you figure it out let me know! we've managed to do
web callback, ANI/CID callback, and DID callback when dedicated to
one user. But "secure" PIN-based callback like you're suggesting
is something I'm not sure is possible.
Typically a PIN-based callback would call back *anyone* who dials
it, and then prompt them to enter their PIN. The good news is this
shouldn't be too hard to implement with your software, the bad news
is that you have to pay for all of these calls regardless if users
authenticate or not - if they don't authenticate then there's no
one to bill and you end up paying for the call yourself.
That's really the only reason we haven't done PIN-based callback
so far. There's nothing preventing someone from causing you a good
bit of financial damage by repeatedly calling the access number
with fake CID in say, Cuba.
--- On Tue, 5/13/08, Cyriaz@Gmail.com <cyriaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: | From: Cyriaz@Gmail.com <cyriaz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI
To: nk3569@yahoo.com, "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 1:12 PM
Mr Nitzan,
Its good to know that its possibe, My requirement is to
facilitate
customers to dial DID number followed by PIN, so that they
will be
authenticated and get the callback. Please let me know how
to
implement it. Thanks
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Nitzan Kon
<nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've been researching the same thing for the same
| reason you are,
Quote: | but I don't think this is possible (currently?).
| What you could
Quote: | do however:
If the user is calling the access number from a
| cellphone: just
Quote: | have them program into the phone's contacts the
| access number,
Quote: | a few waits, and the PIN number.
If you're trying to get A2B to accept wholesale
| SIP traffic, you
Quote: | can either force the CID in their sip friends entry
| (but that will
Quote: | prevent them from setting their own CID), or have them
| SendDTMF the
Quote: | PIN number after the call is connected. Not reliable
| and not a good
Quote: | way to do it - but that's how A2B is written right
| now.
Quote: |
A better way to do it would be to have A2B look up the
| card by the
Quote: | sip friend account code instead of the callerid, but
| that'll require
<cyriaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: |
Quote: | Can a DID pass CLI + PIN, For eg: User Dials the
|
| DID and a 5
Quote: | Quote: | digit PIN
00123456789#00001 or 0012345678900001
and it is accepted as the CLI ( calling number of
|
| the
Quote: | Quote: | person+ #00001)
in Asterisk.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI |
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This is different situation, your mobile operator doesn't use 3rd party
dids. They use numbers which doesn't interfere with your local dialplan,
it's like 192.168.0.0/16 in your own ip network - you can host any
service on these addresses, but it won't be available on the public network.
Cyriaz@Gmail.com wrote:
Quote: | I have noticed a local mobile operator providing recharge (top up)
coupons, User have to dial 130+7digit recharge coupon number and press
"callbutton" and they will hear IVR accouncing new balance.
Is there any similar service with any DID provider where user can dial
the DID+5digit number.
On 5/14/08, Nitzan Kon <nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | I could be wrong, but I don't think this is possible without
answering the channel first (which will charge them for the call).
But hey.. if you figure it out let me know! we've managed to do
web callback, ANI/CID callback, and DID callback when dedicated to
one user. But "secure" PIN-based callback like you're suggesting
is something I'm not sure is possible.
Typically a PIN-based callback would call back *anyone* who dials
it, and then prompt them to enter their PIN. The good news is this
shouldn't be too hard to implement with your software, the bad news
is that you have to pay for all of these calls regardless if users
authenticate or not - if they don't authenticate then there's no
one to bill and you end up paying for the call yourself.
That's really the only reason we haven't done PIN-based callback
so far. There's nothing preventing someone from causing you a good
bit of financial damage by repeatedly calling the access number
with fake CID in say, Cuba.
--- On Tue, 5/13/08, Cyriaz@Gmail.com <cyriaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: | From: Cyriaz@Gmail.com <cyriaz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] DID to Pass CLI
To: nk3569@yahoo.com, "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 1:12 PM
Mr Nitzan,
Its good to know that its possibe, My requirement is to
facilitate
customers to dial DID number followed by PIN, so that they
will be
authenticated and get the callback. Please let me know how
to
implement it. Thanks
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Nitzan Kon
<nk3569@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: | I've been researching the same thing for the same
| reason you are,
Quote: | but I don't think this is possible (currently?).
| What you could
Quote: | do however:
If the user is calling the access number from a
| cellphone: just
Quote: | have them program into the phone's contacts the
| access number,
Quote: | a few waits, and the PIN number.
If you're trying to get A2B to accept wholesale
| SIP traffic, you
Quote: | can either force the CID in their sip friends entry
| (but that will
Quote: | prevent them from setting their own CID), or have them
| SendDTMF the
Quote: | PIN number after the call is connected. Not reliable
| and not a good
Quote: | way to do it - but that's how A2B is written right
| now.
Quote: | A better way to do it would be to have A2B look up the
| card by the
Quote: | sip friend account code instead of the callerid, but
| that'll require
<cyriaz@gmail.com> wrote:
DID and a 5
Quote: | Quote: | digit PIN
00123456789#00001 or 0012345678900001
and it is accepted as the CLI ( calling number of
|
| the
Quote: | Quote: | person+ #00001)
in Asterisk.
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