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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

That's like asking 'what is the best car in the world and why?'

If you need to haul lots of people, you buy a minivan.
If you live in the US and need to haul lots of people, you buy an SUV.
If you need speed, to buy a motorcycle.
If you need..
You need to decide what features are required, desired and how much
you can spend on each phone. When I bought handsets, my primary
requirement was that it had to be 100% remotely manageable and network
booted/configd due to the auto provisioning software I wrote. I stuck
to the Polycoms, Cisco, Linksys and Sipura brands. Within each brand
will be several phones with distinct feature sets. Just figure out
which one is required.

My suggestion, find 4 phones you think will work and take them to the
customer to choose.


On Aug 31, 2007, at 1:11 PM, William Herrera wrote:

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I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.
Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?
Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

That question cannot be answered as everyone has their own perferences
and considerations.

That said, I really like Polycom's especially the higher end models. I
also like the Aastra 480i CT for a DECT cordless.

Michael

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I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.





William Herrera

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

Here we go again....
Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Good+IP+phone+site%3Alists.digium.com&btnG=Google+Search
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From: William Herrera
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.





William Herrera

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

I like my Aastra 480i a lot. It has buttons with numbers on them.

What I am guessing you are really asking is 'what's a really good phone
that's really cheap'.

PaulH
On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 14:11 -0400, William Herrera wrote:
Quote:
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.





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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

Ditto !!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Hackensack
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?
Wow! That is a good question. I can't believe no one has ever asked that before.

Seriously, before letting someone join this mailing list, it should ask them a simple question:

When you don't know the answer to something, do you:
a) blindly ask hundreds of people with no regard to whether it was recently discussed
b) search your favorite search engine for an answer first.

We all know what this poster did.

I realize my messages may seem rude and obnoxious, but let's face it, I'm just saying what the rest of you are thinking. I learned by reading, reading, and reading. The answer to almost every question is out there, you just have to look. It irritates me when other people don't even try to do research first and just want someone to spoon feed them the information. I wonder how many of those people are being paid for their "knowledge", when in fact, they know nothing and are counting on the community to do their work for them.

Anyway, that's enough for my rant for today.

I'll leave with one thing:

www.google.com - it's amazing what you can find

On Aug 31, 2007 12:11 PM, William Herrera <william at lan-solutions.net> wrote:

I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.





William Herrera

LAN/WAN Technical Consultant


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are
selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this,
how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

Even if someone recommends the "best" phone for your particular application,
you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of
learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will
show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect
100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager,
CEO and their lawyer.

Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a
lab. Learn.

- dbc.

From: "William Herrera" <william at lan-solutions.net>
Subject:
To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'"
<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>

Quote:
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

William Herrera
LAN/WAN Technical Consultant
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

Alright, enough.
At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I
feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop.
First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the
Telef?nica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom,
Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this
now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am
not as you might think I am.
I asked a "simple" question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended
for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes
....
If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question
(or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it "simple", as
intended...
Case closed.

WH
-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of David Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are
selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this,
how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

Even if someone recommends the "best" phone for your particular application,
you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of
learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will
show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect
100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager,
CEO and their lawyer.

Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a
lab. Learn.

- dbc.

From: "William Herrera" <william at lan-solutions.net>
Subject:
To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'"
<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>

Quote:
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

William Herrera
LAN/WAN Technical Consultant



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

Cisco 7960's: (SIPified)
1. Cheap
2. 6 lines is plenty
3. simple to config
4. stable

On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:03 PM, William Herrera wrote:

Quote:
Alright, enough.
At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one
but I
feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never
stop.
First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work
for the
Telef?nica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with
Polycom,
Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been
doing this
now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net),
so I am
not as you might think I am.
I asked a "simple" question just to hear your opinion. It was not
intended
for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this
useless notes
....
If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the
question
(or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it "simple", as
intended...
Case closed.

WH


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of David
Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means
you are
selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like
this,
how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

Even if someone recommends the "best" phone for your particular
application,
you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate
amounts of
learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience
will
show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they
expect
100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your
manager,
CEO and their lawyer.

Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research.
Build a
lab. Learn.

- dbc.

From: "William Herrera" <william at lan-solutions.net>
Subject:
To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'"
<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>

Quote:
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

William Herrera
LAN/WAN Technical Consultant



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:04 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

But With all that experience you shouldn't have a issue working out what
IP phone to get?

I have only been in the Voip industry 3 months now and i personally know
what phone to supply to what client, Just through testing and playing
around with different phones.

Anyway, To answer your question I like Most Cisco phones,

Cisco would be first preference and then a Linksys SPA942 which are
quite nice.

Regards
Kevin

William Herrera wrote:
Quote:
Alright, enough.
At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one but I
feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never stop.
First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work for the
Telef?nica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with Polycom,
Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been doing this
now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net), so I am
not as you might think I am.
I asked a "simple" question just to hear your opinion. It was not intended
for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this useless notes
....
If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the question
(or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it "simple", as
intended...
Case closed.

WH


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of David Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means you are
selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like this,
how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

Even if someone recommends the "best" phone for your particular application,
you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate amounts of
learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience will
show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they expect
100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your manager,
CEO and their lawyer.

Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research. Build a
lab. Learn.

- dbc.

From: "William Herrera" <william at lan-solutions.net>
Subject:
To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'"
<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>


Quote:
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

William Herrera
LAN/WAN Technical Consultant




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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:23 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

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usually only need 2% of it, but it has proven useful for certain edge
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The Linksys are obviously a great deal cheaper than the Cisco's but seem
to perform well.

For anything conferencing I'd go for the polycom kit.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

strike out stable on the cisco phones. they are not stable.

On 1/7/08, Tim Connolly <tim at timsnet.com> wrote:
Quote:
Cisco 7960's: (SIPified)
1. Cheap
2. 6 lines is plenty
3. simple to config
4. stable

On Jan 6, 2008, at 11:03 PM, William Herrera wrote:

Quote:
Alright, enough.
At first I was to ignore to you all making statements like this one
but I
feel at this point that if I do not stop this it seems it will never
stop.
First thing first. I have a Bach. in Network Engineering. I did work
for the
Telef?nica of Puerto Rico installing Asterisk (and working with
Polycom,
Cisco, Astra and Grandstream) for a bit over 2 years. I have been
doing this
now on my own business since October 2003 (www.lan-solutions.net),
so I am
not as you might think I am.
I asked a "simple" question just to hear your opinion. It was not
intended
for so many of you waste your time (and mine) writing all this
useless notes
....
If you would have taken the same (or less) time just to answer the
question
(or to ignore it) we al would have been able to keep it "simple", as
intended...
Case closed.

WH


-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of David
Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:42 PM
To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best?

Seriously, if you intend on proposing this to a customer it means
you are
selling your professional services. If you are asking questions like
this,
how successful do you expect your customer engagement to be?

Even if someone recommends the "best" phone for your particular
application,
you will still have zero competency with it and spend inordinate
amounts of
learning time and re-work on the customer's time. Your inexperience
will
show. Customers are demanding and you will get thrown out on your a**.
People expect IT to fail from time to time (unfortunately), but they
expect
100% availability from their phones. Anything less and you will find
yourself with a priority meeting at the client that includes your
manager,
CEO and their lawyer.

Nothing travels faster than a bad reputation. Walk away. Research.
Build a
lab. Learn.

- dbc.

From: "William Herrera" <william at lan-solutions.net>
Subject:
To: "'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'"
<asterisk-users at lists.digium.com>

Quote:
I need to quote a client for a job and I was just wondering.

Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

Thank you all, all opinions will be accepted.

William Herrera
LAN/WAN Technical Consultant



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

I'm in Europe (yeah, that does matter when choosing a good phone!) ..

Some of my (and my customers') favorites:

- Polycom (pretty much all of them)
- Thomson ST2030
- Siemens Gigaset C450 IP dect (for wireless phones)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:05 am    Post subject: [asterisk-users] Which IP Phone is really the best? Reply with quote

On Aug 31, 2007 7:11 PM, William Herrera <william at lan-solutions.net> wrote:
Quote:
Out of all the IP Phones out there, which one is the best and why?

My experiences are with Polycom (ip500) and the Linksys/Cisco SPA94?.
I like both but they are different. The best suggestion on this thread
was to pick 4 and show them to the cust. Last time I was at a VoIP
convention, there was a stand with about 50 models of phones to try
from all the main manufacturers.
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