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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

I'm getting the following errors when trying to run the example in the wiki: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Mod_openmrcp

2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:435 switch_core_session_receive_message() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 [BREAK]
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] sofia.c:2269 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 entering state [completed]
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [NOTICE] mod_spidermonkey.c:2034 session_answer() Channel [sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2] has been answered
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] mod_spidermonkey.c:1851 init_speech_engine() Raw Codec Activation Success L16@8000hz 1 channel 20ms
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] mod_openmrcp.c:634 openmrcp_tts_open() Create Synthesizer Channel
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] sofia.c:2269 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 entering state [ready]

2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_openmrcp.c:643 openmrcp_tts_open() No response from client stack
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_openmrcp.c:647 openmrcp_tts_open() No synthesizer channel available
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_spidermonkey.c:1859 init_speech_engine() Invalid TTS module!
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] inline:1 mod_spidermonkey() Cannot allocate speech engine!

2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_state_machine.c:160 switch_core_standard_on_execute() Hangup sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 [CS_EXECUTE] [NORMAL_CLEARING]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_channel.c:1449 switch_channel_perform_hangup() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 [KILL]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:727 switch_core_session_signal_state_change() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 [BREAK]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:432 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2) State EXECUTE going to sleep
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:367 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2) Running State Change CS_HANGUP
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:395 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2) State HANGUP
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] mod_sofia.c:276 sofia_on_hangup() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 hanging up, cause: NORMAL_CLEARING
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] mod_sofia.c:333 sofia_on_hangup() Sending BYE to sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:46 switch_core_standard_on_hangup() sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 Standard HANGUP, cause: NORMAL_CLEARING
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:395 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2) State HANGUP going to sleep
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:860 switch_core_session_thread() Session 1 (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2) Locked, Waiting on external entities
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_session.c:878 switch_core_session_thread() Session 1 (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2) Ended
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_session.c:880 switch_core_session_thread() Close Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 [CS_HANGUP]
2008-11-28 10:00:26 [DEBUG] mod_openmrcp.c:167 openmrcp_on_session_terminate() on_session_terminate called

I believe I followed the instructions correctly but I can't get openmrcp to connect with Cepstrals TTS.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

the guy who made mod_openmrcp has stopped development and is now making a new library called
unimrcp it will take some time to create a new module and remove the now unsupported openmrcp.



On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM, <mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com)> wrote:
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I'm getting the following errors when trying to run the example in the wiki: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Mod_openmrcp

2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:435 switch_core_session_receive_message() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [BREAK]
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] sofia.c:2269 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) entering state [completed]
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [NOTICE] mod_spidermonkey.c:2034 session_answer() Channel [sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)] has been answered
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] mod_spidermonkey.c:1851 init_speech_engine() Raw Codec Activation Success L16@8000hz 1 channel 20ms
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] mod_openmrcp.c:634 openmrcp_tts_open() Create Synthesizer Channel
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] sofia.c:2269 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) entering state [ready]

2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_openmrcp.c:643 openmrcp_tts_open() No response from client stack
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_openmrcp.c:647 openmrcp_tts_open() No synthesizer channel available
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_spidermonkey.c:1859 init_speech_engine() Invalid TTS module!
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] inline:1 mod_spidermonkey() Cannot allocate speech engine!

2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_state_machine.c:160 switch_core_standard_on_execute() Hangup sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [CS_EXECUTE] [NORMAL_CLEARING]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_channel.c:1449 switch_channel_perform_hangup() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [KILL]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:727 switch_core_session_signal_state_change() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [BREAK]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:432 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) State EXECUTE going to sleep
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:367 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) Running State Change CS_HANGUP
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:395 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) State HANGUP
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] mod_sofia.c:276 sofia_on_hangup() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) hanging up, cause: NORMAL_CLEARING
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] mod_sofia.c:333 sofia_on_hangup() Sending BYE to sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:46 switch_core_standard_on_hangup() sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) Standard HANGUP, cause: NORMAL_CLEARING
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:395 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) State HANGUP going to sleep
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:860 switch_core_session_thread() Session 1 (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) Locked, Waiting on external entities
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_session.c:878 switch_core_session_thread() Session 1 (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) Ended
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_session.c:880 switch_core_session_thread() Close Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [CS_HANGUP]
2008-11-28 10:00:26 [DEBUG] mod_openmrcp.c:167 openmrcp_on_session_terminate() on_session_terminate called

I believe I followed the instructions correctly but I can't get openmrcp to connect with Cepstrals TTS.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

Thanks. Mark.





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From: Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP

the guy who made mod_openmrcp has stopped development and is now making a new library called
unimrcp it will take some time to create a new module and remove the now unsupported openmrcp.



On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM, <mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com)> wrote:
Quote:
I'm getting the following errors when trying to run the example in the wiki: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Mod_openmrcp

2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:435 switch_core_session_receive_message() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [BREAK]
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] sofia.c:2269 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) entering state [completed]
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [NOTICE] mod_spidermonkey.c:2034 session_answer() Channel [sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)] has been answered
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] mod_spidermonkey.c:1851 init_speech_engine() Raw Codec Activation Success L16@8000hz 1 channel 20ms
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] mod_openmrcp.c:634 openmrcp_tts_open() Create Synthesizer Channel
2008-11-28 09:59:54 [DEBUG] sofia.c:2269 sofia_handle_sip_i_state() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) entering state [ready]

2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_openmrcp.c:643 openmrcp_tts_open() No response from client stack
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_openmrcp.c:647 openmrcp_tts_open() No synthesizer channel available
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] mod_spidermonkey.c:1859 init_speech_engine() Invalid TTS module!
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [ERR] inline:1 mod_spidermonkey() Cannot allocate speech engine!

2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_state_machine.c:160 switch_core_standard_on_execute() Hangup sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [CS_EXECUTE] [NORMAL_CLEARING]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_channel.c:1449 switch_channel_perform_hangup() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [KILL]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:727 switch_core_session_signal_state_change() Send signal sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [BREAK]
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:432 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) State EXECUTE going to sleep
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:367 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) Running State Change CS_HANGUP
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:395 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) State HANGUP
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] mod_sofia.c:276 sofia_on_hangup() Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) hanging up, cause: NORMAL_CLEARING
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] mod_sofia.c:333 sofia_on_hangup() Sending BYE to sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:46 switch_core_standard_on_hangup() sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) Standard HANGUP, cause: NORMAL_CLEARING
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_state_machine.c:395 switch_core_session_run() (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) State HANGUP going to sleep
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [DEBUG] switch_core_session.c:860 switch_core_session_thread() Session 1 (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) Locked, Waiting on external entities
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_session.c:878 switch_core_session_thread() Session 1 (sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2)) Ended
2008-11-28 09:59:59 [NOTICE] switch_core_session.c:880 switch_core_session_thread() Close Channel sofia/internal/1000@10.0.0.2 (1000@10.0.0.2) [CS_HANGUP]
2008-11-28 10:00:26 [DEBUG] mod_openmrcp.c:167 openmrcp_on_session_terminate() on_session_terminate called

I believe I followed the instructions correctly but I can't get openmrcp to connect with Cepstrals TTS.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

MikeJ, if openMRCP isn't totally broken then would you mind helping me get the example in Mod_openMRCP working or something like it since I don't know what the heck I'm doing wrong.

I can meet you now over at the IRC channel for Freeswitch users if you like.

Thanks.


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I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com) wrote:
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Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

Thanks. Mark.







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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com) wrote:
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Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

Thanks. Mark.





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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

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I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com) wrote:
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Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

Thanks. Mark.







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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

Since the author of openmrcp has stated that he has a new unimrcp we are certainly going to
work towards getting mod_unimrcp to replace mod_openmrcp. He had already commented on that previous thread to state he is willing to consider making a new module.

Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it. And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.


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Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

Dave
Quote:

I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com) wrote:

Quote:
Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

FYI,
I've updated the wiki to reflect the current status of OpenMRCP with a link to the new UniMRCP project. Hopefully enough people who want MRCP in FS will support UniMRCP...
-MC

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Anthony Minessale <anthony.minessale@gmail.com (anthony.minessale@gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

Since the author of openmrcp has stated that he has a new unimrcp we are certainly going to
work towards getting mod_unimrcp to replace mod_openmrcp. He had already commented on that previous thread to state he is willing to consider making a new module.

Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it. And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David Knell <dave@3c.co.uk (dave@3c.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

Dave
Quote:

I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com) wrote:

Quote:
Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

Does "bridging" a call from FS to Voxeo's Prophecy server require openMRCP? If not then the other issue I might have is a database look up that is part of the dialogue that maybe need as the person response to prompts from the asr. It's possible to run a php script for the database stuff that Prophecy might need or could that happen via Javascript in FS? Then after the dialogue has completed I go from Prophecy back to FS.



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mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

Since the author of openmrcp has stated that he has a new unimrcp we are certainly going to
work towards getting mod_unimrcp to replace mod_openmrcp. He had already commented on that previous thread to state he is willing to consider making a new module.

Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it. And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David Knell <dave@3c.co.uk (dave@3c.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

Dave
Quote:

I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com) wrote:

Quote:
Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

Hi Anthony,
Quote:
mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.
I absolutely understand this but it's important, from a user point of view, to be able to know which bits of FS are current/supported and which aren't.
Quote:
Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it.
It's useful to know that there are people using mod_openmrcp without issue: I did ask here if anyone was a while back, and no-one fessed up. I'll give it a go on a Linux box and report back. And if you'd like a dev/test environment set up, then just tell me which one.
Quote:
And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)
Those guys who claim to have all that money in an offshore bank account are lying - you don't have to reply to them in future Wink Seriously, though, I don't think it's too outrageous an idea to document what's supported and were you (for example) to have suggested that I get in touch with the contributors to the various modules, ask them what their view of its status is, condense the answers in to a list and report back, it's something I'd quite happily do.
Quote:
My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.
Quite happy to participate in that, too.. the problem is that I've a demo to do like yesterday and the timescale for mod_unimrcp is a bit on the long side for that. I'd rather not have to do it with Asterisk and Lumenvox..!

Cheers --

Dave
Quote:


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Quote:
Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

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Quote:
I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

On Dec 1, 2008, at 1:19 PM, mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com) wrote:

Quote:
Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

Just to follow up.

Moshe Yudkowsky has an article on "Routing calls from FreeSwitch to Prophecy": http://www.prophecy2006.com/node/145

My problem is that Freeswitch and Prophecy need to be on the same machine BUT both need to bind to port 5060 so I'm getting errors from one or the other depending who's running first.

So can I change what port(s) FS uses and that way avoid this conflict?
Maybe, this might let me bridge the call via FreeSwitch to Prophecy similar to what Moshe's article discusses???



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Does "bridging" a call from FS to Voxeo's Prophecy server require openMRCP? If not then the other issue I might have is a database look up that is part of the dialogue that maybe need as the person response to prompts from the asr. It's possible to run a php script for the database stuff that Prophecy might need or could that happen via Javascript in FS? Then after the dialogue has completed I go from Prophecy back to FS.



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mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

Since the author of openmrcp has stated that he has a new unimrcp we are certainly going to
work towards getting mod_unimrcp to replace mod_openmrcp. He had already commented on that previous thread to state he is willing to consider making a new module.

Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it. And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.


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Quote:
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My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

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Quote:

I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

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Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

I need to barge in again and add to my last post with this email from Voxeo support. Here is their response to the port binding conflict and it brings up a possible problem if FreeSwitch will be looking for Prophecy at that port? I assumed it would if I set up the extension right but now I don't know and need your assistance with this issue ... as well.

Thank you.
Quote:
MESSAGE:
Hi Mark,

You are correct in that having multiple applications binding to the same port
can cause a bundle of problems. You can configure Prophecy to stay away from
port 5060, but then the question is whether FreeSwitch will be looking for
Prophecy at that port (if its assuming that it's residing on a different box).
Port 5060 is the standard for SIP traffic.

To get Prophecy off 5060 you will need to edit the config.xml and
callrouting.xml files. You will need to search out all instances of "5060" and
replace with, perhaps, port 5068. For instance:

<item name="ListenOnIP1">0.0.0.0:5068</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP2">0.0.0.0:5061</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP3">0.0.0.0:5067</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP4">0.0.0.0:5063</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP5">0.0.0.0:5064</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP6">0.0.0.0:5065</item>

instead of this...

<item name="ListenOnIP1">0.0.0.0:5060</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP2">0.0.0.0:5061</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP3">0.0.0.0:5062</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP4">0.0.0.0:5063</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP5">0.0.0.0:5064</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP6">0.0.0.0:5065</item>

Regards,
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Just to follow up.

Moshe Yudkowsky has an article on "Routing calls from FreeSwitch to Prophecy": http://www.prophecy2006.com/node/145

My problem is that Freeswitch and Prophecy need to be on the same machine BUT both need to bind to port 5060 so I'm getting errors from one or the other depending who's running first.

So can I change what port(s) FS uses and that way avoid this conflict?
Maybe, this might let me bridge the call via FreeSwitch to Prophecy similar to what Moshe's article discusses???



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Does "bridging" a call from FS to Voxeo's Prophecy server require openMRCP? If not then the other issue I might have is a database look up that is part of the dialogue that maybe need as the person response to prompts from the asr. It's possible to run a php script for the database stuff that Prophecy might need or could that happen via Javascript in FS? Then after the dialogue has completed I go from Prophecy back to FS.



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mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

Since the author of openmrcp has stated that he has a new unimrcp we are certainly going to
work towards getting mod_unimrcp to replace mod_openmrcp. He had already commented on that previous thread to state he is willing to consider making a new module.

Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it. And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.


On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David Knell <dave@3c.co.uk (dave@3c.co.uk)> wrote:
Quote:
Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

Dave
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I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

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Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

If you can get it to break on linux I will ssh in and fix it for you.
If you cannot, i can try to fix it for you over rdp but that won't be very fun.

We can think about reinstating mod_lumenvox as well as another windows based asr
alternative. I deleted it for the same reason we will probably delete mod_openmrcp because
nobody was using it and there was no way to support it because our dev licenses had expired.

Lumenvox has offered us some new dev licenses to bring it back but I would need someone to actually want it to work to put in charge of it.

We will be clear about what is supported and what is not in the 1.0.2 release scheduled
to be released in the near future.




On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:11 AM, David Knell <dave@3c.co.uk (dave@3c.co.uk)> wrote:
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Hi Anthony,
Quote:
mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

I absolutely understand this but it's important, from a user point of view, to be able to know which bits of FS are current/supported and which aren't.
Quote:
Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it.

It's useful to know that there are people using mod_openmrcp without issue: I did ask here if anyone was a while back, and no-one fessed up. I'll give it a go on a Linux box and report back. And if you'd like a dev/test environment set up, then just tell me which one.
Quote:
And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

Those guys who claim to have all that money in an offshore bank account are lying - you don't have to reply to them in future Wink Seriously, though, I don't think it's too outrageous an idea to document what's supported and were you (for example) to have suggested that I get in touch with the contributors to the various modules, ask them what their view of its status is, condense the answers in to a list and report back, it's something I'd quite happily do.
Quote:
My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.

Quite happy to participate in that, too.. the problem is that I've a demo to do like yesterday and the timescale for mod_unimrcp is a bit on the long side for that. I'd rather not have to do it with Asterisk and Lumenvox..!

Cheers --

Dave

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Quote:
Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

Dave
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Mike

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Quote:
Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

Thanks. Mark.






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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

FreeSWITCH has an enterprise scale SIP UA. Not only can it listen on other ports it can
listen and work on as many ip:port combos as you want simultaneously each with it's own specific config.

If you have an affinity for port 5060 you can always bring up 2 IP on the same box and give one to each application. You can essentially do whatever you want. It's your box and everything involved is configurable.




On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:00 AM, <mszlazak@aol.com (mszlazak@aol.com)> wrote:
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I need to barge in again and add to my last post with this email from Voxeo support. Here is their response to the port binding conflict and it brings up a possible problem if FreeSwitch will be looking for Prophecy at that port? I assumed it would if I set up the extension right but now I don't know and need your assistance with this issue ... as well.

Thank you.
Quote:
MESSAGE:
Hi Mark,

You are correct in that having multiple applications binding to the same port
can cause a bundle of problems. You can configure Prophecy to stay away from
port 5060, but then the question is whether FreeSwitch will be looking for
Prophecy at that port (if its assuming that it's residing on a different box).
Port 5060 is the standard for SIP traffic.

To get Prophecy off 5060 you will need to edit the config.xml and
callrouting.xml files. You will need to search out all instances of "5060" and
replace with, perhaps, port 5068. For instance:

<item name="ListenOnIP1">0.0.0.0:5068</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP2">0.0.0.0:5061</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP3">0.0.0.0:5067</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP4">0.0.0.0:5063</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP5">0.0.0.0:5064</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP6">0.0.0.0:5065</item>

instead of this...

<item name="ListenOnIP1">0.0.0.0:5060</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP2">0.0.0.0:5061</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP3">0.0.0.0:5062</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP4">0.0.0.0:5063</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP5">0.0.0.0:5064</item>
<item name="ListenOnIP6">0.0.0.0:5065</item>

Regards,
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Just to follow up.

Moshe Yudkowsky has an article on "Routing calls from FreeSwitch to Prophecy": http://www.prophecy2006.com/node/145

My problem is that Freeswitch and Prophecy need to be on the same machine BUT both need to bind to port 5060 so I'm getting errors from one or the other depending who's running first.

So can I change what port(s) FS uses and that way avoid this conflict?
Maybe, this might let me bridge the call via FreeSwitch to Prophecy similar to what Moshe's article discusses???



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Does "bridging" a call from FS to Voxeo's Prophecy server require openMRCP? If not then the other issue I might have is a database look up that is part of the dialogue that maybe need as the person response to prompts from the asr. It's possible to run a php script for the database stuff that Prophecy might need or could that happen via Javascript in FS? Then after the dialogue has completed I go from Prophecy back to FS.



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mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

Since the author of openmrcp has stated that he has a new unimrcp we are certainly going to
work towards getting mod_unimrcp to replace mod_openmrcp. He had already commented on that previous thread to state he is willing to consider making a new module.

Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it. And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.


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Quote:
Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

Dave
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I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

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Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: [Freeswitch-users] Problems with Mod_openMRCP Reply with quote

Mark and David,


I am willing to help some with testing here as well, if you need it. Ping me directly or we can get on the IRC. I am on Mac OS, but have readily available vm's with Debian, etc. I also have Prophecy.


I have a general interest in an ASR solution as well. Voxeo is great, but using it as an MRCP proxy seems odd. As a full fledged VXML solution it is great, if you can afford it. But having a good ASR solution is good first step to trying to get something like OpenVXI working as well.


That said, seems like a bounty or money to help FS is a better spend anyway. It is a one time cost, not a variable cost. And it goes straight to the guys doing the real work.


I built unimrcp last night, it was quite straight forward. In theory, if I weren't old and my C/autoconf skills rather atrophied, it wouldn't seem like it would be that huge a deal to port/fix openmrcp to unimrcp.


Finally, Anthony I was looking at the Lumenvox path as well, but got deterred by the licensing hassle. This seems to be a universal ASR issue. I would reason I can find the old module in SVN? Were they going to grant "community dev" licenses? Again - I am willing to volunteer to do some testing/doc at least.


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On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Anthony Minessale wrote:
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If you can get it to break on linux I will ssh in and fix it for you.
If you cannot, i can try to fix it for you over rdp but that won't be very fun.

We can think about reinstating mod_lumenvox as well as another windows based asr
alternative. I deleted it for the same reason we will probably delete mod_openmrcp because
nobody was using it and there was no way to support it because our dev licenses had expired.

Lumenvox has offered us some new dev licenses to bring it back but I would need someone to actually want it to work to put in charge of it.

We will be clear about what is supported and what is not in the 1.0.2 release scheduled
to be released in the near future.




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mod_openmrcp was a contribution to the community by a 3rd party individual.

As i have clearly stated in 2 previous emails, the man has decided to discontinue the openmrcp project.
So now we are left with the remains of the module and discontinued code. This was not our decision it was his.

I absolutely understand this but it's important, from a user point of view, to be able to know which bits of FS are current/supported and which aren't.
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Some people use it without issue which may mean that the crash you reported is windows specific and I do not have a working lab of any mrcp capbable system to try it against in unix for that matter. I have a list of work to do from here to the moon and back so on an issue like this, unless someone can hand me login credentials to some box and give me a phone number to dial to reporduce the issue, it will be a long time until we can deal with it.

It's useful to know that there are people using mod_openmrcp without issue: I did ask here if anyone was a while back, and no-one fessed up. I'll give it a go on a Linux box and report back. And if you'd like a dev/test environment set up, then just tell me which one.
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And the question arises, should we bother working on it anymore if the lib has been abandoned and we cannot even get any support from it's author which is where the problem most likely lies.

I try not to get too annoyed by these remarks about what we *ought to do* because I know people lose sight of how much of the work to support the project is done by a small group of 3 people and not the 2000 people it appears to be from the outside looking in. (I've been answering email for 4 hours now)

Those guys who claim to have all that money in an offshore bank account are lying - you don't have to reply to them in future Wink Seriously, though, I don't think it's too outrageous an idea to document what's supported and were you (for example) to have suggested that I get in touch with the contributors to the various modules, ask them what their view of its status is, condense the answers in to a list and report back, it's something I'd quite happily do.
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My suggestion is to pool some cash and pay the guy to make mod_unimrcp for FS that we can maintain in tree knowing the development can be supported by the original author.

Quite happy to participate in that, too.. the problem is that I've a demo to do like yesterday and the timescale for mod_unimrcp is a bit on the long side for that. I'd rather not have to do it with Asterisk and Lumenvox..!

Cheers --

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Hi Mike,

My experience is that it's somewhat broken - it took two trivial tweaks to get it to work with IBM's ASR and TTS, but there's a more intractable problem to do with memory getting overwritten (I assume that this is something to do with something being freed when it shouldn't be) which causes a segfault on the second or third session after the module being loaded.

Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, one thing that you guys really ought to do is to decide what's supported and what isn't, and make this obvious - for example, move unsupported modules to a different place in the tree, don't have them built by default, etc. MRCP is in the specsheet on the Wiki. Otherwise folk like Mark and I spend time installing stuff, go round in circles a bit trying to make it work, and then find out (a) that it doesn't and (b) it's not going to be fixed because it's not supported.

Cheers --

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I would not say it is totally broken, it is known to work in quite a few places, but we are unlikely to be doing any new fixes in it.

Mike

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Hi Anthony,

Oh! OK.

So is this module "totally broken".

I say this because I can't seem to get it to work at all with the example in that Mod_openmrcp wiki page but I thought it might because I'm not be using the right Cepstral software (freetrial download versus the paided for SDK) or that I'm not using the right port numbers or something else I didn't do. I used TcpView to look at local port associated with my Cepstral software and changed a few things but still nothing. I changed the loglevel setting to 7 in the wiki's example but I don't see the kind of output on the console that I would expect for debug mode.

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